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Learning the Five Ball CascadeTobjörn Anderson - 25th August, 2001. [Page 1] [Page 2] [Page 3]The five ball cascade is a hard trick. Depending on your skill and how much time you are willing to devote to it and, it could take years to learn it well. However, you will see progress long before that and there is, to me at least, a magical feeling to it quite unlike three or four ball juggling. When the pattern works, it doesn't really feel difficult. Just... overwheling. You may be lucky enough to have some five ball jugglers living nearby. I wasn't. Things that inspired me included:
There are also several juggling animation programs which might help give you a feeling for what the pattern looks like. As an example, I've used JuggleAnim, Jack Boyce's Java Juggling Animator, to create an animated GIF of a 5 ball cascade. (For a long time I thought I was just viewing it on a too slow computer, but now I think it really is in slow motion. That's probably my fault, though.) Please remember that only you can decide what's good for you so feel free to ignore anything you hear or read about five balls. Including this. Just because some piece of advice doesn't work for you it doesn't mean you will be unable to learn five balls. It wasn't until recently that I made much progress with patterns like 5 0 5 0 5 or 5 5 2, and some would say these are among the first things you should learn. A few personal observations, some of which are - or should be - quite obvious. Bear with me. (Any funny numbers you see below are probably siteswap notation.)
Don't give up. It is worth it. [Page 1] [Page 2] [Page 3] view in thread mode or date mode post a new message22nd Mar 2008 dad 5th Jun 2007 Counting How do you count five balls? 3rd Jul 2007 Re: Counting I like to watch the 5th ball I throw. Every time I throw it, I know it's a multiple of 5. 11th Dec 2007 Re: Counting I actually count the 5th ball I *catch* rather than the 5th ball I throw. I know it's the same ball but it's important to distinguish throws from catches as, unless you're completely confident of a clean finish, they're not necessarily the same number. 10th May 2005 ya estoy un poco mas cerca de ... ya estoy un poco mas cerca de conseguir la cascada de cincco bolas. Cada día me encuentro con un problema nuevo, pero calculo que en una semana habré conseguido 60 cogidas. Y despues.... pues ha solidificarlo bien 11th Nov 2007 Re: ya estoy un poco mas cerca de ... el webpage es en ingles 30th Nov 2007 Re: ya estoy un poco mas cerca de ... [TRANSLATION OF THE ORIGINAL POST] I am already closer to achieving the five ball cascade. Every day I encounter a new problem, but I calculate that within a week I will have achieved 60 catches. And afterwards ... maybe I will solidify the pattern. [END TRANSLATION] There ya go. 11th Aug 2007 five ball is so awesome Five ball is awesome! I learned 3 very recently, then mastered 4. People were very impressed with 4, so I moved on to five! I got a "flash" on the very first day of trying! I started by taking four ball and starting it like you do five. Once I got the "flash", it was really hard to keep it going. After a few days of intense practice, I can keep it going until I want to stop. Five ball looks beautiful- if you do it casually in public with tennis balls or rocks, people will be awestruck- they think you're a ninja or something 17th Mar 2007 Where do i start? I've been trying to juggle 5 balls for a while but i just cant do it - i know how its done, but when i try its just not working. I've tried loads of approaches but nothing helps. How do i get the first 5 balls to go in the right pattern? 6th May 2007 Re: Where do i start? Try to throw 4 balls like a 5-ball-cascade with a hole. If you can do that, you should try again with 5 balls. 8th May 2005 Once you get five balls going ... Once you get five balls going the annoying part is the twisting of the pattern. When I was learning five balls I learned to control it by keeping my elbows glued to my sides (use your forearms, DON'T REACH), and throwing pretty high. DON'T try to learn five balls juggling them really low. You'll just make bad habits. I've juggled five balls for 2 minutes, I've juggled six balls (asynchronous fountain) for 90 catches, and the seven ball cascade for 30 catches. 12th Feb 2007 Re: Once you get five balls going ... Once you have 5 ball cascade going fairly consistantly for about 40 or so throws, try adding in an over the top throw, or try flashing a reverse cascade. Even try doing a 5 ball cascase 5-up, it isn't overly hard to pull off occasionally. Just juggling a cascade until you can consistantly get 100 or 200 just gets boring, liven it up a bit with some variation. 1st Oct 2006 Videos I just need a good long video of someone juggling a 5 Ball cascade for a VERY long time in front of a white wall in a bright room. 27th Aug 2001 When I learned to juggle five ... When I learned to juggle five balls some years ago I first just throwed the five balls in the right pattern, and let them fall to the ground without catching them, so that they landed in two nice stacks at my feets. I did this until I could do good throws in a fast pace. After this I started to try to catch them. I think I just did this in a whole week or so. I think that this practice is very good, because it gets you used to the pattern in your own speed. It also makes your first five throws good, so that you have a chance to continue the pattern. If you just try to juggle five balls directly it just gets confusing, and you have balls flying around everywhere in no pattern at all. You also must have patience. Many people gives up if they don´t se improvement directly. It´s not like many threeball tricks, whish you can se improvement in almost directly. But if you just train on it a little everyday, you will be able to do it after a time(differs from person to person). It also helps a lot to stay completely relaxed and loose, when you train on five balls. First when you are relaxed you can get long runs with five. 25th Mar 2006 What type of ball to use.... Help! I want to learn five and I am going to splurge on some new equipment. Should I get some stage balls, bean bags, vinyl balls, or what? I have been juggling 3 for the longest time using lacrosse ball, but using them to learn 5 seems a bit hard. Thank you, Mike 23rd Jul 2006 Re: What type of ball to use.... soft balls mate, soft balls, they fall into your hand better. stage balls are just for show really. 15th Nov 2005 Five balls I started with the five ball cascade three months ago, and now i have 690 catches. Its just practice and more practice |
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You can't really expect any results after trying for 4 days IMHO. For some people the 5 ball cascade takes years to learn.